Wolfenstein

(I like speculating)

i prefer headshooting in beta

Just keep iron sights out of multiplayer and me and a bunch of others will be thrilled.

(nod)

also if you can talk about releasing a sdk with it so we can get a good jump on comp mod & map making.

This isn’t really as complicated as the developers are making it. Make Wolfenstein just like rtcw with updated graphics and the same game play. Leave the new features like the veil and other garbage in the trash. Re-inventing the wheel makes all of us worried and and all the spam and nonsense will be taken out with an external mod like it was with ETQW and W:ET.

The one thing I hated about splash damage was all the nonsense spam they included in their games that was ultimately taken out after promods were implemented 6 months after those games were released. The majority of competitive players moved on to other games and never gave it a chance, thus leaving a much dead North American competition community.

You want the MP made correctly? Let me speak to the dev's myself, I'll set them straight.

Rtcw was always the best fps objective team based game that was spectator friendly and needs to be re-released so other people have the opportunity to play it. Gamers that were lucky enough to have played rtcw almost a decade ago have been waiting for the next best thing and have been let down by w:et and etqw.

btw: all you need is here: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=16&start=0

You will get more feedback from the competition community in #wolfenstein on irc.gamesurge.net then on this forum.

+1 to holly

No flash. No Veil. Make it Rtcw, just updated, simple, and not so flashy.


There was a reason V.1 Rtcw was exciting, and fun to play as well as popular.

Fast, required team-play, No hour long objectives, trick-jumping and/or strafing made a difference.
Competition matches were exciting because they were fast, and fun.

If it's not broke, don't fix it.

Listen to the masses =)

P.S> One Beta Please.

RTCW with updated graphics, **** that, you want to play RTCW go ahead, still well populated servers out there. I want a NEW game, I've been playing W:ET for 5 years, I want a NEW game not the same old same old. I tire of the 1% (comp players) demanding a game that won't appeal to the other 99%.

I dont care about the release date. summer would be nice but:

- dont release the game without a competitive mod.
W:ET Promod has a long evolution and should be a model to make it real comp friendly.

- fix this "unhitable" phenomenon in the tech 4

- keep ironsight (only if it is like ETQW and not like COD!)
Im pretty sure that this hardcore W:ET player can handle a new button or not? xD

In my opinion the most important part of the mp is to have accurate weapons (this pray and spray spread like ETQW to force better teamplay is just pain in the ****) , a smooth engine , small maps and please no delay at weapon change.

Im wondering that a lot of guys askin for strafe/trickjumps. ID tech 4 has this and why should that be removed!?. Its one of ID trademarks.

I have a question to sokal:

will there be any "harkenkreuze" in the mp because of the german laws???
If yes, will it be possible to play censored version vs. normal version???

RTCW with updated graphics, **** that, you want to play RTCW go ahead, still well populated servers out there. I want a NEW game, I've been playing W:ET for 5 years, I want a NEW game not the same old same old. I tire of the 1% (comp players) demanding a game that won't appeal to the other 99%.

Agreed. The new MP has to reflect the new SP. If you want rtcw go out and buy it. This is a NEW game.
Regarding information, I would be extremely happy to hear exactly whats being tried out on the mp even if its not final. Many times id posted pics of ET:QW but those images of levels never made it to final or beta. So theres no rule to say they cant do it again. The world wont end by telling us whats in it now even though things will change. C'mon sokal earn your money and answer a few more questions. Get on the phone to whoever you need to, to get permission and start answering questions. Its just common courtesy. You have already asked us to ask questions but are unwilling to answer.
eg sdk questions, whats the big secret? custom content where do we stand? Because once E3 announcements are over you just know there will be x10 more questions but if we look at the history we can expect little in answers either then or in the future once the game arrives. ie problems wont get fixed and support will drop off. So why should we invest money in something that obviously wont get good support as shown by the unwillingness of the maker to communicate with its users.

If you ppl want a NEW game that isnt like RTCW or W:ET, then go play ANOTHER game. Not the next WOlf. lol.

"oh Im so tired of halo 2, I want halo 3 to be like world of warcraft" Then its better to actually play wow than trying to change the already set game concept.
New maps will make the game feel lots refreshed, and good graphics will make it feel lots refreshed also.
There is no need to actually change the game concept of like sprint-and-gun, low bullet spread.

Btw, any game is / can be 10x more fun if you play it together with friends on ventrilo.
So the reason you dislike rtcw or w:et could be you dont have any friends in those games anymore. Dont blame the games.
Also 1% comp players in so not true. I'd guess atleast 20% have played 1 match, if not 30 or more%.
And theren there must be number on how many are active every day, or month.
Just because you dont play matches, and dont see the fun and intensity it doesnt mean it less worth.
A good clanmatch or even an average clanmatch is or can be 10x more fun than playing public.

Not seeing the fun (cause you havent tried it, or experienced it) is NOT = it doesnt exist.








I would _expect_ MP info to be at E3. Not much info, but the general info, basicly the info we dont want lol
Like classes, how many maps.

I dont think we will get info about the RTCW osp or ETPro ground pellars:

- Strafe 1on1 battle skills (meaning sprint-n-strafe)
- Trickjump skills (aka the strafe jumping on slopes to get by faster, like on goldrush, adlernest, supply aka map-built in highway roads)
- Aim from the hip skills (meaning very low spread from the hip, and almost no spread at all when crouching)
- Revive skills (meaning it should be fast-weapon switch to change to syringe)
- Nade skills (coockable / primable nades)
- 2 hitboxes 1 Head hitbox & 1 body hitbox
- Same damage zone as in RTCW and ET. (for example SMG: 18 on body / 40 on head with helmet / 50 on head without helmet) (NO damage gradients as in etqw, like getting almost full 40damage if you hit the neck. its should be either head, or body damage)
- ETpro hitsounds. b_hitsounds 0 for people not wanting them
- Same SMG / Pistol damage values / settings as in ET and RTCW MP.
- Same SMG fire rate values / settings as in RTCW (not ET. Fast Firerate. But ET firerate is acceptable too.)
- Same HP in ET and RTCW MP.
- Strafe speed / Sprint bar. / Sprint in sideways
- Same speeds for walking , Running as in rtcw
- Shoot while sprinting
- Shoot while running
- Same spread values/settings as in RTCW MP
- Fast weapon switching (from smg to pistol for example) (NOT as in etqw)
- No "****" / "re-loading" every time of the pistol when selecting the weapon. (not as in etqw)
- cvars for disabling heavy weapons, based on how many people are on server. like less than X (like 12) people heavy weapons are automaticlly disabled


The lowskillers/ cod-outcasts: Flame on.

Glad to see an announce ^^ I hope it reduces spam a bit

I agree with the fact that the game should be as polished as possible, but giving tiny bits of information once in a while won't really have an influence on the final game, I guess.

If you ppl want a NEW game that isnt like RTCW or W:ET, then go play ANOTHER game. Not the next WOlf. lol.

"oh Im so tired of halo 2, I want halo 3 to be like world of warcraft" Then its better to actually play wow than trying to change the already set game concept.

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The lowskillers/ cod-outcasts: Flame on.

Well, first of poor analogy. The fans aren't demanding anything comparable to your example. Going all over with the idea that Wolfenstein will be 1:1 to RtCW or ET is bit silly and unimaginative. Surely it will loan a lot from those two, but exact carbon copy wouldn't serve anyone. ET is still strong in it's own right, few new good comp maps wouldn't hurt though.

I'm comp ET player, and still I want a new game, that's like RtCW and ET, but not a copy of either one of those. With just updated graphics. So far it seems we are getting something fresh. I'm not yet sold to the idea of veil in MP - I just haven't seen how it works, it might be fun. I don't know if ironsights are in MP, or if they are mandatory or not to hit someone? So it's an open ballgame as far as I know.